I was amazed to learn this morning that the founding of ISIS laid right smack-dab on the shoulders of Pres Obama, with Mrs Clinton in the corner cheering him on, presumably. I thought perhaps I awoke in a dystopic alternate reality. Then I learned who was making these claims, none other then the esteemed candidate for president, the GOP’s darling, Donald J Trump. *insert the rumble of thunder of here* Well I had my ah ha moment for the day, then looked into the matter further. Didn’t take long, it seldom does with this man; like shooting pike in a barrel; making hay out of his ramblings, blathering(s), and disassociated thought processes. I mean, what does Mr Trump think, what wool is he using; does he think Google was only invented yesterday, does he think we can’t figure out how to use it? (Google) Laughs, hope you enjoyed that link, I hope Mr Trump reads this and clicks that. Back to the discussion already in progress. Mr Trump does know how to use Twitter, to some extent; I learned today he doesn’t use e-mail, perhaps he is daunted by the lack of a 140 character limit. Bazinga! Enough of the fun, I will dispense with my thoughts on the question and present them thus.
So the claims out of Mr Trumps mouth; “In many respects, you know, they honor President Obama,” Trump said at a rally in Florida. “He’s the founder of ISIS. He’s the founder of ISIS. He’s the founder. He founded ISIS.” , “Trump continued: “I would say the co-founder would be crooked Hillary Clinton.” That was on Wednesday; he doubled down on Thursday with speaking with Hugh Hewitt; “Last night you said that the president was the founder of ISIS,” Hewitt said. “I know what you meant, you meant that he created the vacuum, he lost the peace.” Trumps response; “No, I meant that he’s the founder of ISIS.” [Then on CNN he tripled down with]; “The way he removed our troops,” Trump said, apparently referencing the Obama administration’s decision to withdraw U.S. military personnel from Iraq by 2011. “I, you — we shouldn’t have gone in. I was against the war in Iraq.”( see ) The last cite seems to be the premise of Mr Trumps delusions.
In order to invalidate Mr Trumps statement we first need to look at the onset of the Iraq war. The Iraq war began Mar 20 2003, please note the date, long before the current administration began. The evasion began, clouded in mystery, with the claims of weapons of mass destruction WMD being held by the S Hussien regime. (later to be determined false) S. Hussien was captured in Dec 2003 during Operation Red Dawn. Leading to, as Wikipedia describes it:
“The invasion led to the collapse of the Ba’athist government; Saddam was captured during Operation Red Dawn in December of that same year and executed by a military court three years later. However, the power vacuum following Saddam’s demise and the mismanagement of the occupation led to widespread sectarian violence between Shias and Sunnis, as well as a lengthy insurgency against U.S. and coalition forces. The United States responded with a troop surge in 2007 to attempt to reduce the violence.” [Wikipedia] [Again note the dates]
As the cite relates the instability in the region resulted from the overthrow of the Hussien regime, long before the present administration. As for the draw down:
The U.S.–Iraq Status of Forces Agreement was approved by the Iraqi government on 4 December 2008. It established that U.S. combat forces would withdraw from Iraqi cities by 30 June 2009, and that all U.S. forces would be completely out of Iraq by 31 December 2011.[Wikipedia] [Once again the date Dec 2008, that was on Baby Bush’s watch]
“The way he removed our troops,” Trump said, apparently referencing the Obama administration’s decision to withdraw U.S. military personnel from Iraq by 2011. “I, you — we shouldn’t have gone in. I was against the war in Iraq.” [cited above] Here we have Trump; one, appearing to not be able to string a coherent thought together; two, bemoaning the fact over the way the troops were removed; and here the confusion begins; because he launches into; …we shouldn’t have…I was… la la la…la. This is at the most a red herring. The draw down was a result of the agreement between the Iraq government and the US govt. Not just some off-handed decision of the Obama administration.
The claim that ISIS was founded by Pres Obama and company is ridiculous. The members of the ISIL share in the same ideology as so many others (social groups) in the region. Sectarian violence that divide so many. Age old beliefs, feuds, drive the anger that fuels the strife. Ideas can not be defeated by bullets, bombs, isolating them (the people that hold them) into ghettos, and/or killing them (The Ideas). The very thought of killing an Idea held by so many is preposterous. For these reasons, Mr Trump ascribing the blame to Pres Obama is ludicrous, not to be taken seriously. These Ideologues don’t tend to gather under one banner, coalesce into one name; their intolerance of those that do not believe as they do is ageless. And, surprise, occurs in all cultures, in all religions. The central “Idea’ of all conflict is, ‘I am right, you are wrong.’ Plenty of that to go around, in case you haven’t noticed. Until ‘we’ confront and invalidate that ‘Idea,’ there will always be strife, there will always be war. Any politician that rambles and blathers on, about ‘Them’ any politician that seeks to divide; is part of the problem, and will not offer any viable solutions.